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Really really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek article, that I really did not explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point due to the fact that when I needed to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via each in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that wasn't sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to chat concerning a couple of issues of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is far better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same lorry.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. Let's chat regarding engine and in fact just to define that the design years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have been around for a lengthy time.
And, you recognize, for a version of a Chevy van has been around considering that, you recognize, around that time too. So we're not going to get back into, into the earlier things. Given that 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more popular and I wouldn't really recommend a V6 engine.
You recognize, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with blow to these engines, because they really did not have adequate threading in the spark plug, which triggered troubles. And frequently that would take place when you could be in a 15 traveler bus going up a hill with a load of people and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
If you're acquiring anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug problems. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you have to replace the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm speaking about troubles, it's a much more innovative engine. Expenses web cam, so you're getting even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is an easier design with press rods.
They're simply actually respectable, durable, strong engines. You understand, being a van, obviously, you know, doing any kind of service on them is much more complex due to the fact that you've reached remove that cover and get involved in maintenance in odd ways. Things like trigger plugs last a horrible long time, so they do not require to be changed really frequently.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like means back before the 2000 version year.
You know, that's still available. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm just going to say a plumber and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually excellent usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it feels like the diesels are, they appear to have much less troubles in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Possibly since they aren't worked so hard, however when things take place, they're actually pricey to repair. We have actually obtained a great deal of video clips and information regarding diesels, particularly the Fords.
You really need to assume two times about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my suggestion. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for purpose, ensure that you're fitting the engine that you're acquiring for the objective that you're endeavouring to satisfy. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will claim, Chevy is rather a lot restricted to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas consuming engine.
If you're, and again, we're just speaking concerning kind of a straight, routine freight van below. Look at your purpose, your usage, just how much weight you're hauling and that'll aid you make the choice.
One point that we have not chatted concerning right here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what version, they're offered ever before from half bunch to one heap framework and actually some of the cutaway vans are in fact much more durable, like, you know, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less steering linkage included in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, yet the, you understand, the guiding linkage is a lot less complicated, so there's much less parts and much less things to use out.
The experience in a Ford is possibly a bit much more truck like however I do not know if you 'd actually ever actually saw a difference in between the 2. It appears like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What about brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the same, yet I will certainly state that it appears like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they often tend to need to be changed virtually every single time you do a brake work.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be replaced. So I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually bad doors. I mean, the gliding doors were crap, you know, really severely developed. In fact, I would certainly state that if you are also taking a look at something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans really and their vehicles generally really took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for instance would certainly not last very long in all.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I suggest, I 'd state they're both possibly pretty much equivalent in quality, fit and coating, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, of training course we'll have nicer consultations than the cargo vans. Yet I can't state that one of them attracts attention to me a little bit more than the other.
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